By using this site, you agree to the Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.
Accept
AmextaFinanceAmextaFinance
  • Home
  • News
  • Banking
  • Credit Cards
  • Loans
  • Mortgage
  • Investing
  • Markets
    • Stocks
    • Commodities
    • Crypto
    • Forex
  • Videos
  • More
    • Finance
    • Dept Management
    • Small Business
Notification Show More
Aa
AmextaFinanceAmextaFinance
Aa
  • Banking
  • Credit Cards
  • Loans
  • Dept Management
  • Mortgage
  • Markets
  • Investing
  • Small Business
  • Videos
  • Home
  • News
  • Banking
  • Credit Cards
  • Loans
  • Mortgage
  • Investing
  • Markets
    • Stocks
    • Commodities
    • Crypto
    • Forex
  • Videos
  • More
    • Finance
    • Dept Management
    • Small Business
Follow US
AmextaFinance > Investing > Carl Icahn admits he was wrong to take a huge short position on the market that lost $9 billion
Investing

Carl Icahn admits he was wrong to take a huge short position on the market that lost $9 billion

News Room
Last updated: 2023/05/20 at 3:16 PM
By News Room
Share
4 Min Read
SHARE

“‘I’ve always told people there is nobody who can really pick the market on a short-term or an intermediate-term basis. Maybe I made the mistake of not adhering to my own advice in recent years.’”


— Carl Icahn, activist investor

That’s Carl Icahn, legendary activist investor and billionaire, admitting in a Financial Times interview that he was wrong when he made a massive bet that the stock market would crash.

In 2017, his bet lost about $1.8 billion on hedging positions, according to FT calculations, that would have made money if asset prices had fallen. The trade lost another $7 billion between 2018 and the first quarter of 2023, according to the paper.

Icahn’s investing arm Icahn Enterprises LP
IEP,
-1.47%
started to short the market after the 2008 financial crisis, and became more aggressive in subsequent years. The company used a strategy of shorting broad market indexes, individual companies, commercial mortgages and debt securities.

“You never get the perfect hedge, but if I kept the parameters I always believed in . . . I would have been fine,” he said. “But I didn’t.”

Instead, regulatory filings show that IEP lost $4.3 billion on short positions in 2020 and 2021 as the market rallied off the pandemic slump, buoyed by the Federal Reserve’s massive stimulus.

“I obviously believed the market was in for great trouble,” Icahn said. “[But] the Fed injected trillions of dollars into the market to fight COVID and the old saying is true: ‘Don’t fight the Fed.’”

Icahn also explained what exactly he did with margin loans he borrowed from IEP that were recently highlighted by short-seller Hindenburg Research in a stinging report.

Also read: What we know about Carl Icahn’s margin loan

The loans were disclosed in regulatory filings in early 2022, but few seemed to notice at the time.

The Hindenburg report accused the company of inflating asset values and quested whether a margin call would send the company into a spiral if the stock price were to fall.

IEP’s stock did fall after that report — at the cost of about $6 billion of market cap.

For more, see: Carl Icahn rebuts short seller Hindenburg Research’s report. It’s already cost his company $6 billion in market cap.

Icahn addressed the report on the day it was released and offered an update on IEP’s recent earnings, saying he was fully in compliance with loan terms.

He told the FT he had used the money borrowed from IEP to make additional investments outside of his publicly traded vehicle.

“Over the years I have made a great deal of money with money,” he said. “I like to have a war chest and doing that gave me more of a war chest,” he added, referring to the margin loan.

Earlier this month, IEP disclosed a federal probe into its corporate governance and other issues. It’s not clear if that was related to the Hindenburg report.

That same day, it posted earnings showing it swung to a loss in the first quarter from a profit a year ago, missing consensus estimates by a wide margin.

IEP shares have fallen 32% in the year to date, while the S&P 500
SPX,
-0.14%
has gained 9%.

Read the full article here

News Room May 20, 2023 May 20, 2023
Share this Article
Facebook Twitter Copy Link Print
Leave a comment Leave a comment

Leave a Reply Cancel reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

Finance Weekly Newsletter

Join now for the latest news, tips, and analysis about personal finance, credit cards, dept management, and many more from our experts.
Join Now
“Invest in what you know.”

Watch full video on YouTube

‘All the banks were lying’: Tom Hayes on his decade-long battle for justice

The last time Tom Hayes had his picture taken at London’s Southwark…

Tesla Opened A Diner In LA — Here’s What It’s Like

Watch full video on YouTube

Wall Street Roundup: Tesla Skepticism, Google Stands Out, DORK Shorts

Listen below or on the go on Apple Podcasts and Spotify Tesla's…

2️⃣ of Buffett’s biggest investing tips this financial adviser follows.

Watch full video on YouTube

- Advertisement -
Ad imageAd image

You Might Also Like

Investing

Why Home Builders Are Bouncing Today—and Why Their Stocks Are Good Buys

By News Room
Investing

This Beaten-Down Industrial Stock Wants to Call America Home. Why It’s Time to Buy.

By News Room
Investing

These 8 Dividend Aristocrats Can Protect Your Portfolio in a Downturn

By News Room
Investing

Some Lenders Benefit From SBA’s Troubled Loan Program

By News Room
Investing

Social Security Is in Turmoil. Should You Lock In Benefits Now?

By News Room
Investing

Hims & Hers Stock Is Due for a Crash Diet. The GLP-1 Surge Is Fading Fast.

By News Room
Investing

Opinion: The stock-market selloff isn’t over yet. Here are 4 reasons why.

By News Room
Investing

With Trump’s tariffs paused, ‘Big Three’ automakers may race to build inventories

By News Room
Facebook Twitter Pinterest Youtube Instagram
Company
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms & Conditions
  • Press Release
  • Contact
  • Advertisement
More Info
  • Newsletter
  • Market Data
  • Credit Cards
  • Videos

Sign Up For Free

Subscribe to our newsletter and don't miss out on our programs, webinars and trainings.

I have read and agree to the terms & conditions
Join Community

2023 © Indepta.com. All Rights Reserved.

YOUR EMAIL HAS BEEN CONFIRMED.
THANK YOU!

Welcome Back!

Sign in to your account

Lost your password?